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Seller: ancientgifts (4,186) 99.3%, Location: Lummi Island, Washington, Ships to: Worldwide, Item: 122104070722 TRANSLATE Arabic Chinese French German Greek Indonesian Italian Hindi Japanese Korean Swedish Portuguese Russian Spanish Your browser does not support JavaScript. To view this page, enable JavaScript if it is disabled or upgrade your browser. Click here to see 1,000 archaeology/ancient history books and 2,000 ancient artifacts, antique gemstones, antique jewelry! The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Jewish Origins of Christianity by Carsten Peter Thiede. NOTE: We have 75,000 books in our library, almost 10,000 different titles. Odds are we have other copies of this same title in varying conditions, some less expensive, some better condition. We might also have different editions as well (some paperback, some hardcover, oftentimes international editions). If you don’t see what you want, please contact us and ask. We’re happy to send you a summary of the differing conditions and prices we may have for the same title. DESCRIPTION: Hardback with Dust Jacket: 256 pages. Publisher: Palgrave for St. Martin’s Press; (2001). Carsten Peter Thiede’s bestseller, “Eyewitness to Jesus”, written with journalist Matthew d’Ancona, established him as one of the leading figures on the history and texts of the first century. Now in this controversial new book, Thiede focuses on what are perhaps the most enigmatic ancient documents ever found; the Dead Sea Scrolls. Drawing upon his own pioneering methods in restoring the scrolls, Thiede reveals that the Essene Library represented by the scrolls demonstrates that the first Christians were essentially a Jewish movement, not a radically new and fundamentally different religion. This perspective clearly has major implications. It affects both how we view the scrolls and it changes how we consider the history of first-century Christianity. Unraveling the complete history of the scrolls since their discovery in 1947, Thiede places them in the context of what has previously been unknown about the Essene community at Qumram. His identification of scroll fragments from Mark’s Gospel and Paul’s first letter to Timothy indicates that such Jewish-Christian writings were written before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Moreover, it also suggests that the Essene community viewed the early Christians as fellow Jews, whose provocative ideas about the true Messiah they wanted to scrutinize. Eye-opening and stimulating, “The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Jewish Origins of Christianity” reveals for the first time the fruits of much painstaking and original research. CONDITION: New, never read. PLEASE SEE IMAGES BELOW FOR SAMPLE PAGES FROM INSIDE OF BOOK. PLEASE SEE PUBLISHER, PROFESSIONAL, AND READER REVIEWS BELOW. PUBLISHER REVIEW: REVIEW: Since their discoveries in 1947, the Dead Sea Scrolls have been a source of constant controversy. Scholars still argue over the meaning of the fragmentary texts; especially what they say about the Jewish roots of the first Christian communities. Discovering that the scroll fragments date Mark's gospel much earlier than once believed, Carsten Peter Thiede claims that the scrolls establish links between the two great faiths, and that they literally revolutionize our understanding of the Bible. Unraveling the complex and fascinating history of the Dead Sea Scrolls, this book will challenge and even change how people think about religion. Carsten Peter Thiede is a papyrologist and one of the world’s pre-eminent authorities on the history and texts of the first century. Co-author with Matthew d’Ancona of the bestseller, “Eyewitness to Jesus”, he has written numerous books including “Jesus: Life or Legend?”, and also with Matthew d’Ancona, “The Quest for the True Cross”. Thiede is Profesor of Early Christian History at STH Basel, Switzerland; teaches at the Ben Gurion University of the Negev, Beer-Sheva, Israel; and is a member of the International Papyrologists’ Association. He is also an ordained Minister in the Anglican (Episcopal) Church. PROFESSIONAL REVIEWS: REVIEW: Most people know that the Dead Sea Scrolls exist, and most people have a vague idea that they contain some sort of secrets about the early days of Christianity and about a crucial period of Jewish history. But most of the literature pertaining to the scrolls is written in scholarly jargon that is all but impenetrable to the general reader. For a straightforward, who-what-when-where orientation to the scrolls and their significance in early Christianity, lay people are lucky to have “The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Jewish Origins of Christianity” by Carsten Peter Thiede. The book begins by providing basic information about the scrolls. They were written by an orthodox Jewish sect called the Essenes between 150 B.C. and A.D. 68. They are written in Hebrew and Aramaic (the language that Jesus spoke). And they were known by other ancient writers, including Origen, an influential theologian in the early Church, until at least the third century. Although most of Thiede's book reviews basic information, his arguments are by no means bland. Readers already familiar with the scrolls will be challenged by Thiede's argument that cutting-edge, microscopic analysis has revealed previously unnoticed texts in the scrolls; and readers coming to the scrolls for the first time will have to reckon with his invitation "to develop a new awareness of [Christianity's] roots"; in other words, to attempt to overcome "2,000 years of mainly anti-Jewish church history," in order to grapple with the fact that "Christianity is Jewish." REVIEW: This highly technical treatise will appeal especially to specialists on the Dead Sea Scrolls and early Christianity. Thiede (author of “Eyewitness to Jesus”) uses sprightly prose to advance his arguments. Essentially, he claims that the Dead Sea Scrolls contain writings that were later included in the New Testament, thus demonstrating that the early Christians, including Jesus, were Jews. However, Thiede also notes that the community of Essenes at Qumran who produced the Dead Sea Scrolls were not the first Christians; they "did not all of a sudden mutate to Christians”. Whether or not some Essenes became Jewish Christians is an open question. To answer this and other questions, Thiede has developed "confocal scanning optical microscopy" to examine the scrolls, as well as "high resolution X-ray radiography and Computer-Aided Tomography." While most readers will find these methods to be incomprehensible, they will enjoy Thiede's frank castigation of other Dead Sea Scrolls scholars, such as one he accuses of harming "public understanding of the scrolls”. Patient readers will be fascinated by Thiede's carefully documented assertion that, in its earliest days, Christianity was basically a Jewish movement. As a papyrologist and expert on the history and texts of the first century, Thiede is eminently qualified to present this erudite analysis. REVIEW: Exploring questions from his best-selling “Eyewitness to Jesus”, papyrologist Thiede illumines interaction between early Christians and the Essenes. Most importantly, he identifies two Qumran papyri fragments as versions of documents that later became part of the New Testament as Mark and First Timothy. Thiede provides much background to support this controversial view. Besides comparing various textual theories, Thiede describes the Essenes by quoting from many historical sources and by interpreting the results of many excavations. Emphasizing that both the Essenes and early Christianity represent movements within Judaism, Thiede views the scrolls as a library documenting a variety of Jewish perspectives. Much technical discussion is included, ranging from comparisons of different versions of text to brief explanation of confocal scanning optical microscopy, which is used to analyze the papyri. Also offering technical discussion, Joseph Fitzmyer examines Qumran Messianism in Dead Sea Scrolls and Christian Origins, and Israel Knohl presents a specific theory relating Jesus to Qumran leader Menahem in “Messiah Before Jesus: The Suffering Servant of the Dead Sea Scrolls”. This scholarly, thought-provoking work is recommended for those students or enthusiasts of religious studies, ancient world history, or archaeology. REVIEW: Thiede (a papyrologist, he teaches early Christian history at STH Basel, Switzerland and Ben Gurion University in Israel) presents a new theory on the Dead Sea Scrolls, suggesting that the first Christians were a Jewish movement, rather than a radically new religion. Readers are led through the history of the scrolls and the history of their study in painstaking detail as Thiede analyzes their texts in the context of the Jewish teaching of the time. REVIEW: Were the first Christians really Jewish? In this controversial book, Carsten Peter Thiede argues that the first Christians were not a radically new and fundamentally different religion but part of a Jewish movement. Impressive to see the immense knowledge and the impartiality with which inquisitive questions are asked and preconceived ideas are torpedoed. READER REVIEWS: REVIEW: This book provides valuable information for laypeople who want to understand the significance of the Dead Sea Scrolls in relation to Christian history. It gets pretty technical in parts, but the author's conclusions are clearly stated. The most important thesis he sets forth concerns the possibility that there are fragments of the gospel of Mark and I Timothy among the Qumran scrolls. If this is true, then it is a clear indication that the New Testament literature was around earlier than many believe, for the community was destroyed in 68 A.D.. I also like the way Thiede addresses, although through brief asides, some of the more outlandish theories about the Dead Sea Scrolls, obviously alluding to the "Holy Blood Holy Grail" genre of books. He also demolishes the popular bromide that the New Testament is "anti-Semitic." REVIEW: Thiede reviews documents and fragments that have not previously been translated or have not been discussed widely. He has some detailed and exciting analyses, critically comparing with other proposals for reconstruction of fragments in Caves 4 and 7. This book provides a thoroughly stimulating and satisfying read, handling the scenarios of history and culture in a flowing fashion that held my interest, even with extensive notation and comparison with some other materials on the Dead Sea Scrolls. The author presents an especially fascinating reconstruction and detailed critical argument proposing that two small fragments are actually sections of two New Testament documents. He does this by way of a general review and criticism of attitudes and assumptions by previous scholars, who have automatically ruled out the possibility that documents we now know as the New Testament could have been collected at Qumran before the destruction of the place by the Romans in 63 A.D. The two passages he convincingly details as present in Cave 7 are Mark 6:52-53, represented in document fragment 7Q5, and 1 Timothy 3:16-4:1, 3, represented in two document fragments designated together as 7Q4. He provides a detailed and highly reasoned proposal, in addition to the textual analysis, to show how the Qumran archives could have easily gotten documents that later became part of the New Testament. Thiede also provides another great critical service in this volume, by reviewing all the known similarities and differences between the Essenes and the Nazarenes, later called Christians in Antioch and European history. Since the followers of Jesus were Jews, it is not startling that other messianic Jews would be interested in their documents. Especially it makes sense that an eclectic library like Qumran appears to have been would have had a copy of some or all available before 63 A.D. He points out even more similarities than have previously been proposed, by criticizes the previous naive assumption that the Essenes were either a source of John the Baptist and Jesus' teachings, or that the Essene community became a new Christian community wholesale, or that they were totally unrelated to the new Nazarene messianic sect. The author reviews very competently the already established fact that the first Nazarenes, or Christians, were fully Jewish, and the writers on the New Testament writing fully within the Jewish tradition. In this regard, he also agrees with a growing numbers of commentators who feel that even Luke was not a Gentile, as traditionally proposed, but also a Jew. He points out that no commentator suggested this before Jerome in the fifth century A.D. Thiede emphasizes, however, that the Essenes would only have been a likely group to respond to the news that Jesus was the Messiah. He detailed the novel way in which the followers of Jesus interpreted the Old Testament passages to indicate that Jesus was the Messiah. He further uncovers more practical ties between the Essene movement and the disciples of Jesus during Jesus' lifetime. I learned here for the first time that the Essenes had members all over Palestine and even in Syria, not just the well-known Qumran monastic community. He reviews much previous information and correlates that with recently discovered information to provide a revised, more complete picture of the Essenes and the overall messianic milieu of Judaism in the first century. REVIEW: One reviewer claims the book breaks no ground, in that it is already established that Christianity has Jewish roots. While this is true, liberal theology has often claimed that the orthodox doctrines of the deity of Christ and his physical resurrection were not believed by his earliest followers. Thiede's claim, if true, that a fragment of 1 Timothy has been found among the scrolls would shatter this liberal perception. I also found the book compelling in its treatment of the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament. Thiede demonstrates evidence the Septuagint is based on a different and, perhaps, older Hebrew text than the Masorite copy we currently use for our translations. The ramifications may be profound, indicating the Septuagint is a more reliable version of the Old Testament than the Masorite. This also has implications for orthodox Christianity, as the Septuagint has been used by Christians to effectively demonstrate Jesus as Messiah and God. 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